The cost for being totally self sufficient for electricity is about $26,000 + tax, but any you produce which you don't use could be sold back to Ontario Hydro.. that is cool.
You two should read "State of Fear" by Michael Criton. He is a pretty good author (Jurassic Park I & II were WAAAY better in novel form than any of the three movies). But regardless, it has some interesting persepctives on global warming and the various myths surrounding the so-called energy crisis.
Now I know the instant I say something is good and the two of you would like it, both your backs go up in the air and you automatically dislike it but consdier this, you've BOTH become Floyd fans, as I predicted would happen (Okay okay so gloating is no way to win you over, but I never said I was smrt!) <-- yes I spelled it the Homer Simpson way on purpose.
Anyhow, read the book if you get a chance, I really do think you would enjoy it. Both of you. IT ain't a long or a difficult read but all the scientific references include actual REAL online references just to prove he isn't making up the story entirely and it is based on the real-life disappearnace of some uber-rich environmentalist crack-pot!
While I realize the prices for oil and gas are inflated from what they should be, there are those that beleive we will soon reach, if not already, maximum capacity. As for global warming the average temperature in the atlantic is increasing. We are still pumping out huge amounts of pollution.
Even IF the environmental issues and energy crisis are blown out of proportion the amount of pollution is affecting our health. That reason, if for no other, we should be looking at alternative renewable energy resources. I do not believe global warming and the energy crisis are myths.
Read the book is all I can say. I don't disagree with you but the facts presented in this book (which are all (supposedly) substantiated if you care to research them.. I took it with a grain of salt of course being the skeptic that I am..).
Regradless, the book isn't saying don't be energy-conscious and smart, it is merely saying that the giant montrosity backing the whole global warming myth is misleading the public. More I won't say in case you do chose to read the book because it is a decent read (no I'm not getting any money from the author for pushing his words on others
See at this point in time Hawkeye, you HAVE to be concerned with the future whereas for me I just gotta conserve enough to last my life time.. which let's face some basic truths, someone is bound to get pissed off at me and end my existance before I'm 60 (if I'm being generous)... so I don't care if the ocean IS heating up 1 degree every 20 years or not.. there is enough fish in the sea to feed me til I'm old, fat and bald!
I figured you were kidding. I read in a book called Secrets and Lies etc... or something to that effect that car fuel efficiency actually peeked in 1984! How's that for a kick in the a**!
Not surprising really.. well actually it IS surprising that anything GOOD came from the 80's other than a sense that "flock of seaguls" hair was NOT a good idea. But it is not surprising if the auto and the fossil fuel industries has held some giant secret back like that!
Electric is one thing, hydrogen fuel another. Apparently, according to Gimper, Brazil has converted to ethanol from sugar cane! If there is a fossil fuel crunch they won't be hit as hard as us.
I'm sure the first world countries will find a way to exploit the lesser developed countries to their (the first world countries) benefit. Money talks and there is always someone willing to sell out themselves and their country.