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Shabadu_SMH
December 16, 2010, 1:59pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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So apparently Elder Scrolls V (aka the sequel to Oblivion) is due out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWwNWBxTZMY&feature=player_embedded#!

Also, this trailer for Mass Effect 3 looks kinda cool - not my style of game, but cool trailer all the same:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZGFjBmD41Q&feature=player_embedded

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Diddly
December 16, 2010, 2:37pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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I disagree.  Trailers like that show nothing of the game.  Dragon Age was the same thing.  They showed awesome cinematography which gave you no sense of what the actual gameplay was like.  It'd be like advertising King Solomon's Mines (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2f_r8j4emS4) by showing a trailer of Indiana Jones (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GU_s95oq5lU&feature=related)


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Hawkeye
December 16, 2010, 4:05pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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How is Mass Effect 3 not your type of game when you play Fallout?

I agree, if the trailer only shows cutscenes that's trying to relay how well a car drives by showing pictures of it on the road.  It may look awesome, but reality could be very different.


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Diddly
December 16, 2010, 5:40pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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I just think it's false advertising, plain and simple.  I've attached two screenshots.  One is from the trailer of Dragon Age Origins, the other is actual game play. Do these look at all the same?
It's irrelevant if you think Dragon Age was a great game, since it could've just as easily been crap for all the trailer showed.



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Hawkeye
December 16, 2010, 9:19pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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I don't think I'd go as far as saying it's false advertising because these cut scenes 'are' in the game.  It's just that they are not indicative of 90% of the game experience.


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Diddly
December 16, 2010, 9:42pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Uh no, in all three of these cases the trailer is not made from cutscenes in the game.


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Hawkeye
December 17, 2010, 1:22pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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I am including intro sequences as well in my comment.  Point is, if you own the game I'm assuming you would likely at some point see those movies or parts of them.  Therefore, they are included WITH the game.  We're arguing semantics here, but that's what law is.


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Diddly
December 17, 2010, 2:18pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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I understood your point, and it's not semantics when I tell you these scenes do not appear at all in the game.  Not in the opening sequence, not in between the action, not during the end credits.

This is why I didn't include Civilization V in the discussion because its trailer WAS drawn from the opening sequence.


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Hawkeye
December 17, 2010, 3:02pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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I didn't know you played Dragon's Age, or the new Elder scrolls or the new Mass Effect.  OK. If the trailer is not in anyway part of the actual game then I can understand your point.  But, if the trailer matches, in style, resolution etc, the cut scenes then still, I'm not sure it's false advertising.  And the trailer does show what the story of the game is.


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Diddly
December 17, 2010, 3:44pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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In as much as a Ferrari shows you what a Tercel does, in that we agree.  


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Hawkeye
December 17, 2010, 6:27pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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100% agreement.


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Shabadu_SMH
December 20, 2010, 1:57pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Wow.. way more conversation than I expected to see on that front!
In my original posting I said "Also, this trailer for Mass Effect 3 looks kinda cool - not my style of game, but cool trailer all the same".. and I meant just that.. the TRAILER looks cool.  I had no misconceptions that the game play would be the same, I just thought that the trailer looked cool.  It's like a movie trailer that shows all the good action sequences or the funniest moments in a movie.. it LOOKS good, from the trailer.

But regardless, I do agree with Diddles that putting cut scenes (whether actually from the game or not) without including some display of actual game play IS false advertising.  I'm willing to bet somewhere it DOES make a claim in some legal line that gets them out of any legal predicaments, but it is like showing (stealing from Diddly's example) a Ferrari driving around a race track saying "you know how it feels to drive your dream machine" to help sell a Tercel... so I guess I'm just writing a lot to say I agree as well
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Danmick
December 21, 2010, 5:58pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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I agree that Shabadu agrees.
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Shabadu_SMH
December 21, 2010, 6:52pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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I disagree with danmick..
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Hawkeye
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I think you both suck rock-sores.  Just kidding... Lick rock-sores... Just joking, enema-fy rock-sores.


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